This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.
These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.
- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy - Ira McDonald as minute taker - Revised Agenda: (1) Administrivia (2) Select a tentative date for next IDS Meeting in January 2019 (Alan/Ira) (3) ISO JTC1 SC28 query about IEEE 2600 (Alan) (4) SC Virtual F2F - Future of PWG (All) (5) Next SC meetings (6) Action Items Review (All)
- IPR declaration - Roll call - Review minutes of SC (5 November 2018) meeting - Approved as posted - Review minutes of PWG F2F Plenary (14 November 2018) - Approved as posted
- Discussion
- IPP WG off-cadence dates (all @ 3pm ET on Thursday)
- 13 December 2018
- 10 January 2019
- 24 January 2019
- PWG SC off-cadence dates (all @ 2pm ET on Monday)
- 10 December 2018
- 7 January 2019
- Next IDS WG meeting
- 24 January 2019 is the best date
- Discussion
- Process / next steps are not at all clear currently
- IEEE standards can be fast tracked into ISO standards (~4 month track)
- General topic: Does the IEEE 2600 group want to bring IEEE 2600 to SC28?
- Does the industry want this to happen?
- It would solve the sunsetting of IEEE 2600 in 2019 (stranding 24 CC nations)
- Eventually, we want everybody to move to the new HCD PP (v1.1) and future cPP
- Rather than the "old" IEEE 2600 PP
- But a finalized cPP is probably at least 2 years out
- Can this be roadmapped so that IEEE 2600 is the first stage and the HCD PP v1.1
and cPP are later transition stages?
- Consensus: Alan should pursue this SC28 query and add work item(s) to IDS charter
ACTION: 12/03/18 - Alan to pursue liaison / engagement with ISO JTC1 SC28 and do what
is needed in IDS WG meetings
- Discussion
- What does the PWG look like in 5 years?
- Impact on Process 4.0?
- Thoughts
- What are the PWG's activities?
- Is there just maintenance/development of IPP?
- Is there any expected new activity?
- 3D was promising but not that much interest in the industry to adopt or be engaged
- With 3D, we are kind of so far out in front from a conceptual / cognitive point of
view that they haven't realized they need it yet (or they don't want to do that yet
because they think coupling / closed systems are still valuable).
- Still no killer app...
- System Service *is* a very important new IPP technology
- Security related technologies and policies (Job and Document Encryption, Privacy
Attributes, Get-User-Printer-Attributes, etc.)
- Several PWG technologies developed in the last 5 years are being looked at very closely
and/or implemented in the market (e.g., 5100.16 and 5100.18)
- Some groups (e.g., Mopria) have much higher participation than the PWG, but they seem
to be slow to take up the PWG's more recent work
- Need a new PWG Policy to fix the quorum rule
- Getting quorum out of nonparticipating members is a problem
- Most other standards bodies require active participation to preserve voting rights
- Paul noticed that the greatest concern that IT admins (not necessarily customers) have
involve the degree to which the printer as a network host have exposed their customers
networks to risks because of improperly implemented network interfaces (what services
they expose, etc.)
- What would be valuable to our PWG members?
- Should we do a survey?
- Topics to ask about in a survey (or Plenary sessions)
- Encryption
- Access Control
- 3D Printing
- Conformance / test suites
- Sample implementations
- Intro / help desk
- ePub IPP book we just finished
- "ipp-help@pwg.org"?
- Go back to our PWG charter goals?
- Should we try to require our members to attend / be engaged in some way as a condition of
some level of membership?
- Take attendance at meetings?
- Use meeting attendance as a condition of voting rights?
- Some other scheme?
- SC - Monday 17 December 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern - regular topics but brief meeting - SC - Monday 31 December - CANCELED - New Year's holiday - SC - Monday 14 January 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern - regular topics
- Discussion - Deferred (but status updated - see below)