PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 25 July 2022

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald as minute taker (arrived late due to IETF 114 Hybrid F2F)

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Virtual F2F 16-18 August 2022 - Plenary slides (All)
  (4) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (5) PWG Hosting Organization - update on LF/JDF (Ira)
  (6) PWG 2022 Member Dues - status (Jeremy, Smith)
  (7) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (8) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (9) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - status (All)
  (10) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (11) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2022 - update (Paul)
  (12) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20220627.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (27 June 2022)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 06/27/22 - Smith / Jeremy to send the PWG August 2022 F2F agenda rough draft to the 
SC reflector for review and also create a first draft event page with that agenda
- CLOSED

ACTION: 06/27/22 - Ira to send a note to Seth Newberry to pursue / keep the dialogue going 
on PWG hosting organization
- CLOSED - Ira spoke with Seth on 06/29/22 and debriefed Jeremy and Smith on 06/30/22

ACTION: 06/27/22 - Smith update Document Management Policy to remove management of PWG
Process and PWG Policy document types and add these placeholders to a new draft of PWG Process
4.0 for review on 07/18/22 or later on a PWG SC Tiger Team call
- CLOSED

(3) PWG Virtual F2F 16-18 August 2022 - Plenary slides (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html
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- Discussion
  - Reviewed and revised draft Plenary slides during SC call

  - Slide 11: Shrink the 3D session to 1 hour and add another OAuth bit from 11-12 before 
    lunch so that we have 2 hours to discuss OAuth evolution

  - Picked PWG F2F meeting dates for 2023

  - Next steps
    - WG chairs to provide status slides

    - Liaisons to provide status slides
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ACTION: 07/25/22 - Smith / Jeremy / Paul to reach out to folks at key member companies to encourage them to attend the OAuth and/or 3D printing sessions
- OPEN
ACTION: 07/25/22 - Paul / Alan to discuss what they are going to present on 3D later in the fall of 2022
- OPEN

(4) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
https://pwg.org/security/

- Discussion
  - Mike was not available

  - Mike was going to reach out for more feedback but he's busy with other stuff so Jeremy 
    will remind him again

  - Perhaps get this page to be good enough and publish it after a "last call" before the F2F

  - Paul suggested to add content to describe how the building blocks are built up to make a 
    more complete system, which is important for the 3D discussions (and 2D as well). 
    - Can the web page catch up with what we get when discussing it verbally? 

    - Tiers of security, etc.

(5) PWG Hosting Organization - update on LF/JDF (Ira)
https://www.jointdevelopment.org/
https://www.standardshub.io/
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- Discussion
  - Nothing substantive that is ready to share yet but still working on it!
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(6) PWG 2022 Member Dues - status (Jeremy, Smith)

- Discussion
  - Still working with Konica Minolta to get them back to being in good standing
    - They are working internally with their finance department

(7) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Some PWG members are still experiencing problems with mail from the reflectors
    - The reasoning seems unclear (thanks ML / AI cloud processing)

(8) 3D / IPP article development - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Picked a date (08/15/22) at the SC Tiger Team call last week for people to review a draft 
    of the actual article

  - Need to decide whether we want to publish it ourselves and 3dprint.com or do we want to 
    have it published via Anne Price?

(9) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - status (All)
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- Discussion
  - PWG Document Management Policy draft posted last week
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ACTION: 07/25/22 - Smith to update Process 4.0 draft to add back in approval processes for PWG Process and PWG Policy document types
- OPEN

(10) OpenPrinting - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20220705.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-July-2022/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.15
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.2.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.1.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 07/05/22 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 07/14/22 (Till)

  - See GSoC 2022 timeline link above
    - GSoC contributors met mentors, read docs, got up to speed on 05/20/22 thru 06/12/22

    - Coding officially began on 06/13/22

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.2 release notes link from 05/26/22 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.15 release notes link from 04/11/22 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.2.1 release notes link from 05/26/22 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/02/21 (Mike)

  - See LPrint v1.1.0 release notes link from 12/23/21 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 06/07/22, 07/05/22 and upcoming 08/09/22

(11) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)
https://www.gse.org/

- Discussion
  - Rainer has decided how they are going to show at FormNext
    - umati.org

    - Reach out to those at your company that are involved in 3D printing that may attend 
      FormNext, to see if they want to do an IPP front end for remote job submission

  - Paul to reach out to Holger Grafe at Enterprise Documents WG of the Guide Share Europe
    user community who contacted us (07/12/22) about what work the PWG does (not really 3D 
    related)

(12) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 1 August 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - PWG Document Management Policy review
  - Process 4.0 new draft review?

- SC - Monday 8 August 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Regular call
  - PWG August Virtual F2F final Plenary slides review

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 15 August 2022
  - CANCELED due to PWG August Virtual F2F

- Plenary - Tuesday 16 August 2022 7am Pacific / 10am Eastern

- SC - Monday 22 August 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Regular call
  - Post-mortem on F2F and other usual topics

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 29 August 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Document reviews

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith/Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/24/22 - Smith to contact Mike Rhines about renewing PWG / Mopria liaison agreement
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 01/24/22 - Smith to contact 3MF Consortium about renewing PWG / 3MF Consortium liaison agreement
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 04/04/22 - Smith / Jeremy to reach out to the PWG member contacts and check on their dues status and confirm they are still the right contacts to be listed in the PWG scorecard
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/02/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting - OPEN
ACTION: 06/27/22 - Smith / Jeremy to send the PWG August 2022 F2F agenda rough draft to the SC reflector for review and also create a first draft event page with that agenda
- CLOSED
ACTION: 06/27/22 - Ira to send a note to Seth Newberry to pursue / keep the dialogue going on PWG hosting organization
- CLOSED - Ira spoke with Seth on 06/29/22 and debriefed Jeremy and Smith on 06/30/22
ACTION: 06/27/22 - Smith update Document Management Policy to remove management of PWG Process and PWG Policy document types and add these placeholders to a new draft of PWG Process 4.0 for review on 07/18/22 or later on a PWG SC Tiger Team call
- CLOSED