PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 31 October 2022

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG November 2022 F2F Prep
  (4) 3MF/PWG Liaison - status (Smith)
  (5) Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share Europe - PWG overview? (Paul)
  (6) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
  (7) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Ira)
  (8) PWG 2023 Member Dues - contacts? (Jeremy, Smith)
  (9) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (10) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (11) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - status (All)
  (12) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (13) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2022 - update (Paul)
  (14) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20221017.htm

- IPR declaration

- Roll call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (17 October 2022)
  - Approved as posted

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to contact Luis at 3MF (and CC Mike and Jeremy) with a description of 
the AMSC v3.0 opportunity and request immediate collaboration to work together on this in 
AMSC, but not overtly mention the liaison in the note
- OPEN

ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to check in with Holger (Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share 
Europe) and see what is needed next
- OPEN

ACTION: 10/17/22 - Jeremy / Ira / Mike / Smith to find a time to have a next discussion with 
Standards Hub folks
- OPEN

ACTION: 10/17/22 - Smith / Jeremy to update the PWG Members page with PrinterLogic's URL and
logo image (and the November 2022 Plenary slide deck too...)
- IN PROGRESS

ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article draft before (10/24/22) for Tiger Team
- CLOSED

(3) PWG November 2022 F2F Prep
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/november-2022-virtual.html
https://www.printerlogic.com/
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- Discussion
  - Jeremy live edited and will post to FTP site
    - Jeremy to fix the gantt chart
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ACTION: 10/31/22 - Smith to update the Process 4.0 and policy updates slide, and fix membership table to add PrinterLogic
- OPEN

(4) 3MF/PWG Liaison - status (Smith)

- Discussion
  - Liaison signed by 3MF over the weekend! Yay! Victory!

  - Joni working to countersign and send out the signed copies

  - Smith suggested to Luis to reach out to Mike about scheduling a follow up meeting to 
    discuss engagement on technical initiatives (e.g., job ticketing, feature detection)

(5) Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share Europe - PWG overview? (Paul)
https://www.gse.org/
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/PWG-2022-State-of-the-Union-20220920-d2.pptx
https://www.pwg.org/about.html
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- Discussion
  - Paul to reach out to Holger
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(6) PWG Website update for Security and Privacy - status (Mike)
https://pwg.org/security/
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- Discussion
  - Mike isn't present for a discussion today

  - Alan working to craft some feedback on the page to make it more congruent with IDS 
    and HCD cPP
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ACTION: 10/31/22 - Alan to poke the email thread on PWG Website update for Security and Privacy with a stick to make sure that it hasn't gone dormant
- OPEN

(7) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Ira)
https://www.standardshub.io/

- Discussion
  - Ira isn't present 
    - Next meeting time is a TBD

  - Later afternoons (especially Fridays) are best for Standards Hub folks

  - Meeting to re-engage to be scheduled by Ira? (10/17/22 action item - see above)

(8) PWG 2023 Member Dues - contacts? (Jeremy, Smith)

- Discussion
  - Smith ran his own membership contact survey because some haven't received messages from 
    ISTO

  - updated a number of membershiop contact email addresses on the list

  - Smith shared his updated list with ISTO

ACTION: 10/31/22 - Smith / Jeremy to talk with ISTO about billing nuances (e.g., K-M needs the invoice to be sent to both the billing and the primary contacts)
- OPEN

(9) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Bill is not receiving PWG emails to his Outlook email address

(10) 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
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- Discussion
  - Reviewed at SC TT on 10/24/22

  - Next draft needed
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ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- OPEN
(11) PWG Process 4.0 and Policies - status (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-process-4-20220829.pdf
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- Discussion
  - We haven't looked at this in a bit - need to get back on it!
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(12) OpenPrinting - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20220906.htm
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20221025.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-September-2022/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-October-2022/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.3
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.16
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.2.3
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.1.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes links from 09/06/22, 10/25/22 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news links 09/22/22, 10/20/22 (Till)

  - See GSoC 2022 timeline link above
    - Coding officially began on 06/13/22 and originally ended on 09/12/22 (see below)

    - 7 of the 8 OP contributors have completed their projects!

    - Applying a new feature of the GSoC! 
      - Coding extended for all 7 contributors by four or six weeks to 10/10/22 or 10/24/22
      - To compensate for contributors exams and restarted classes during GSoC 2022 coding

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.2 release notes link from 05/26/22 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.16 release notes link from 08/24/22 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.2.3 release notes link from 10/08/22 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/02/21 (Mike)

  - See LPrint v1.1.0 release notes link from 12/23/21 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 09/06/22, 10/25/22, and upcoming 11/15/22

(13) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2021 - update (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Paul reached out to ACI contact to see if it would make sense to present at the 3D
    printing in transportation conference, waiting for a response

  - This Friday, Paul and Alan are presenting at the ASTM-ICAM (International Conference on 
    Additive Manufacturing) meeting

  - Paul and Alan to give the SC a rundown on what happened at the presentation in the next 
    SC Tiger Team meeting

  - Maybe also an update in the PWG November 2022 F2F?

(14) Next SC meetings (All)
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 7 November 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Final PWG Plenary slide review for PWG November 2022 F2F
  - Ira asleep due to IETF 115 Hybrid F2F (London, UK) at 4:30am-1pm Eastern!

- SC - Monday 14 November 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - CANCELED due to PWG November 2022 F2F

- PWG Plenary - Tuesday 15 November 2022 7am Pacific / 10am Eastern
  - SC Update, Membership, WG Status

- SC Tiger Team - Monday 21 November 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - Process 4.0 draft review?

- SC - Monday 28 November 2022 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern
  - PWG November 2022 F2F post-mortem

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith/Mike/Ira/anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith/Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith/Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/24/22 - Smith to contact 3MF Consortium about renewing PWG / 3MF Consortium liaison agreement
- IN PROGRESS
- PWG officers to meet w/ 3MF Consortium in week of 09/26/22
ACTION: 07/25/22 - Paul / Alan to discuss what they are going to present on 3D later in the fall of 2022
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to contact Luis at 3MF (and CC Mike and Jeremy) with a description of the AMSC v3.0 opportunity and request immediate collaboration to work together on this in AMSC, but not overtly mention the liaison in the note
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to check in with Holger (Enterprise Documents WG of Guide Share Europe) and see what is needed next
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Jeremy / Ira / Mike / Smith to find a time to have a next discussion with Standards Hub folks
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Smith / Jeremy to update the PWG Members page with PrinterLogic's URL and logo image (and the November 2022 Plenary slide deck too...)
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/17/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article draft before (10/24/22) for Tiger Team
- CLOSED