PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 18 December 2023

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Hosting Organization - defer (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (4) PWG February 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
  (5) PWG May 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
  (6) IDS Short and Long Term Planning (Alan)
  (7) IPP Everywhere Logo - required attribution statement? (Smith)
  (8) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (9) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (10) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (11) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
  (12) IPP Use Cases (Smith)
  (13) Other Liaisons - status (Smith/Mike)
  (14) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20231211.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (11 December 2023)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 12/11/23 - Smith to send out a PWG February 2024 draft agenda - leverage August 2023
meeting schedule
- CLOSED

(3) PWG Hosting Organization - defer (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update
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- Discussion
  - Mike to continue researching Web hosting w/ ICDSoft and GitHub until after 1 January 2024
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(4) PWG February 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/february-2024-virtual.html

- Discussion
  - Review draft Smith posted on 12/14/23

  - Add a "System Service" topic? 
    - Bill to reach out to Mike - DONE

  - Smith to change "Device Attestation BoF" to "Strong Device Identity BoF"
    - Mike wants to coordinate offline about this change with Smith

(5) PWG May 2024 F2F - schedule (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html
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- Discussion
  - Move to Mon-Wed 6-8 May 2024
    - OP folks are on board with this change

  - Any agenda / planning updates?
    - Add a "System Service" topic
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ACTION: 12/18/23: Jeremy: Send out a poll to gauge who can attend PWG May 2024 F2F in person in early January
- OPEN

(6) IDS Short and Long Term Planning (Alan)

- Discussion
  - No updates 

  - No responses to Alan's queries to others who might be able to fill in during his absence

(7) IPP Everywhere Logo - required attribution statement? (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-ippevelogo-policy-20231127-rev.docx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-ippevelogo-policy-20231218-rev.docx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ippevelogo-policy-20231218.docx
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/ippevelogo-policy.pdf
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- Discussion
  - SC live edited first revision from 11/27/23 on 12/11/23

  - SC live edited next revision from 12/11/23 on 12/18/23

  - Consensus:  Unanimous approval for publication as updated PWG Policy
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(8) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Alan keeps getting deleted from IDS and IPP mailing lists 
    - Unsubscribe warnings are being eaten by his mail server (he's never getting them)

  - Microsoft participants had similar problems with mailman admin messages

(9) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Paul needs to finish the ACI thing currently

  - Security implications of modifying something at a stage in a particular thread

  - Paul probably won't make it back to the IPP article until mid-January 2024

(10) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20231114.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-December-2023/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-November-2023/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.7
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.4
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.2.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 11/14/23 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news links from 11/24/23 and 12/20/23 (Till)

  - GSoC 2024 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - See timeline link above!
    - 26 January to 6 February 2024 - Mentoring organizations submit applications to Google
    - 6 February to 20 February 2024 - Google program admins review organization applications
    - 21 February 2024 - List of accepted mentoring organizations published
    - 22 February to 18 March 2024 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application ideas with 
      mentoring organizations
    - 2 April 2024 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - 24 April 2024 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - 1 May 2024 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - 1 May to 26 May 2024 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - 27 May 2024 - Coding officially begins!


  - See OP CUPS v2.4.7 release notes link from 09/20/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta2 release notes link from 10/05/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.0 final release notes link from 09/22/23 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.4 release notes link from 12/21/23 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/21/22 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.2.0 release notes link from 12/31/22 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 11/14/23, 12/12/23, and upcoming 01/09/24

(11) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
https://www.drupa.com/
https://tct3sixty.com/conference

- Discussion
  - Drupa in Dusseldorf, Germany (28 May to 7 June 2024)
    - Paul spoke to Drupa people (someone from EFI) and what came out was that the likely 
      attendees at this stage were going to be print shops, which seemed a bit off but 
      interesting from a use cases point of view

  - TCT 3Sixty in Birmingham, UK (5-6 June 2024)
    - UK's leading 3D Printing & AM Conference

    - No updates

(12) IPP Use Cases (Smith/Mike)
https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/wiki/IPP-Use-Cases
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- Discussion
  - Smith added to Wiki on 12/12/23
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(13) Other Liaisons - status (Smith, Mike)
https://mopria.org/
https://3mf.io/
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- Discussion
  - Mopria
    - No updates

  - 3MF
    - No updates
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(14) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 25 December 2023
  - CANCEL due to Christmas holiday

- SC - Monday 1 January 2024
  - CANCEL due to New Year holiday

- SC - Monday 8 January 2024
  - Review draft agenda for PWG February 2024 F2F
  - Review draft Plenary slides for PWG February 2024 F2F?

- SC - Monday 15 January 2024 
  - CANCEL due to Martin Luther King Day?

- SC - Monday 22 January 2024 
  - Review draft Plenary slides for PWG February 2024 F2F

- SC - Monday 29 January 2024 
  - Review final agenda and Plenary slides for PWG February 2024 F2F

- SC - Monday 5 February 2024 
  - Any final tweaks to PWG February 2024 F2F agenda and Plenary slides
  - Ira absent due to ISO TC22/SC32/WG12 Hybrid F2F (Washington, DC) on 02/05-09/24

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 09/18/23 - Mike to put together some summary slides on PWG website hosting options with recommendations
- OPEN
ACTION: 10/02/23 - All SC members to make lists of all our specs for Deprecated, Obsolete, Historic potential transitions and share the lists so we can review them in a future meeting
- CLOSED
ACTION: 10/09/23 - Jeremy to send out call for PWG November 2023 Plenary slides content soon
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/06/23 - Smith to work on "Internet Printing Protocol" technology page for PWG website w/ use cases
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/20/23 - Smith to update IPP Everywhere Logo Policy document to include the requirement for an attribution statement
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 12/11/23 - Smith to send out a PWG February 2024 draft agenda - leverage August 2023 meeting schedule
- CLOSED