PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 11 March 2024

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (Konica Minolta, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Hosting Organization - status (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (4) PWG February 2024 F2F - status (All)
  (5) PWG May 2024 F2F - status (All)
  (6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities - update (Paul)
  (10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith/Mike)
  (11) Membership Dues - status (Jeremy)
  (12) Moving the SC meeting an hour later - proposal (Ira)
  (13) Document Management Policy - status (Smith)
  (14) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20240304.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (4 March 2024)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review
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No action items
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(3) PWG Hosting Organization - status (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update
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- Discussion
  - No update - Mike not present
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(4) PWG February 2024 F2F - status (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/february-2024-virtual.html
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- Discussion
  - PWG meeting summary - Jeremy hopes to have this done by the end of the week
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(5) PWG May 2024 F2F - status (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html
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- Discussion
  - Joint PWG/OP agenda draft (Smith)
    - Live edited during SC call on 03/04/24 - Smith posted to SC on 03/05/24

    - Ira forwarded to LFOP on 03/05/24 - Till responded positively on 03/06/24
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ACTION: 03/11/24 - Smith to create the May 2024 event page with what we have currently and if we have to twiddle that so be it
- OPEN
(6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
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- Discussion
  - Nothing new
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(7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Still finishing up PP slides for ACI, then the video recording of the presentation

  - Paul to talk to Alan about a presentation based on some slides that Alan did last year

(8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20240220.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-February-2024/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.7
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.6
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.2.0
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.3.1

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 02/20/24 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 03/03/24 (Till)

  - GSoC 2024 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - 3-4 GSoC 2024 contributors are already coding and fixing problems
    - Project to replace qPDF with PDFio which will have a number of benefits
    - DONE - 26 January to 6 February 2024 - Mentoring organizations submit applications to Google
    - DONE - 6 February to 20 February 2024 - Google program admins review organization applications
    - DONE - 21 February 2024 - List of accepted mentoring organizations published
    - 22 February to 18 March 2024 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application ideas with 
      mentoring organizations
    - 2 April 2024 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - 24 April 2024 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - 1 May 2024 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - 1 May to 26 May 2024 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - 27 May 2024 - Coding officially begins!

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.7 release notes link from 09/20/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta2 release notes link from 10/05/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.0 final release notes link from 09/22/23 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.6 release notes link from 02/09/24 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.2.0 release notes link from late 01/24/24 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.3.1 release notes link from early February (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 02/20/24, 03/12/24, and upcoming 04/02/24

(9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
https://www.auburn.edu/

- Discussion
  - Drupa follow-up - needs to be done

  - TCT 360 follow-up - need to confirm that we don't need to send anybody to Birmingham, UK

  - Auburn University - teacher there is the Chair of the security track for ASTM at ICAM.
    - Possibility to pilot using IPP for security controls for the "last mile". 

    - Many 3D printer companies are doing "cloud" but how they get that to work is frequently 
      insecure.

  - Auburn University - NIST person was at ICAM and Paul was able to attend 2/3 of the
    cybersecurity track where NIST was discussing what they are working on currently for the 
    digital thread - contact w/ NIST via the Auburn University teacher above.

(10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith, Mike)
https://3mf.io/
https://mopria.org/
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- Discussion
  - 3MF
    - No updates

  - Mopria
    - No updates
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(11) Membership Dues - status (Jeremy)

- Discussion
  - We have made progress :)

  - Google has paid, Kyocera has paid, Alan and Danny have been contacted, Apple is still MIA

(12) Moving the SC meeting an hour later - proposal (Ira)

- Discussion
  - Fine with Smith

  - Better for Paul

  - Jeremy can make this work

  - Works for Bill

  - Consensus:  Starting 03/25/24, we will move SC call by 1 hour to 3pm ET / 12pm PT

(13) Document Management Policy - status (Smith)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/wd/wd-pwg-document-management-policy-20240311-rev.docx

- Discussion
  - Live editing during SC call on 03/04/24

  - Live editing during SC call to produce an 03/12/24 draft

  - Reworded the text around Formal Vote choices

  - Smith to post the updated draft

(14) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 18 March 2024
  - CANCELED
    - Smith will be on Spring Break
    - Ira will be calling in to IETF 119 (Brisbane, Australia)

- SC - Monday 25 March 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Regular meeting

- SC - Monday 1 April 2024
  - CANCELED
    - Easter Monday
    - Jeremy will be on Spring Break

- SC - Monday 8 April 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Regular meeting

- SC - Monday 15 April 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Regular meeting

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 11/06/23 - Smith to work on "Internet Printing Protocol" technology page for PWG website w/ use cases
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/08/24 - Mike to prepare comments / summary slides on progress evaluating ICDSoft and Github PWG hosting infrastructure capabilites
- OPEN
- Refresh from action of 09/28/23
ACTION: 01/08/24: Paul to investigate Webinar / recording options to produce a video and where to host it (pwg.org, WebEx, YouTube)
- OPEN
- Working on an updated presentation to the ACI folks and that will inform working on this
ACTION: 02/05/24 - Jeremy / IEEE-ISTO to contact billing contacts to get them to try to get paid up in time for upcoming formal vote
- IN PROGRESS
- Remaining unpaid as of last scorecard: Apple, Google, KM, Kyocera, Toshiba, Danny Brennan, Alan Sukert - Ira sent a reminder to Danny on 03/02/24